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Date: February 06, 2005 at 16:39:45
From: Stan, [pcp08419983pcs.orovly01.az.comcast.net]
Subject: Re: Minister Weighs in on the War etc. - Dr Robin Meyer's Speech at..


fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m
Function: noun
1 often capitalized: a political philosophy,
movement, or regime that exalts nation and often
race above the individual and that stands for a
centralized autocratic government headed by a
dictatorial leader, severe economic and social
regimentation, and … forcible suppression of
opposition.

November 1st, 2004

Originally, this site detailed the Bush
administration's deception on the reasons why we
went to war with Iraq. That page is still here, if you
want to check it out.

However, I've found that most Bush supporters
don't care. They don't care if the Bush
administration has violated international law. They
don't care if the administration has made us more
of a target for terrorism by pissing off more Arabs.
Something else is at work with Bush supporters. I
think I've found the key reason that Bush
supporters are willing to look the other way to
illegal/corrupt activities. They share a common
bond with the Bush administration in Jesus.

We are seeing the rise of the Christian Fascist.
This political force might become powerful enough
to bring an end the current American government
and all the freedoms we enjoy as Americans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Christian.
Christianity is good. Christian Fascism is evil.
When Christians turn to hate and violence and
oppression of others, that is when Fascism takes
over and it becomes evil. If you are a true Christian,
you can tell by measuring the hate in your heart,
you are not a Fascist. Relax. I am not talking about
you. I'm talking about Christians who are willing to
pick up arms to spread the word.

I have come to this conclusion from reading the
responses from Bush supporters on this site's
message board. A few common themes occur in
almost every pro-Bush message. They will invoke
religion, specifically Christianity/Jesus. They
display an 'I don't care' attitude towards human
rights, human suffering and Law. And an
overwhelming feeling that war is good.

Increasingly I hear comments such as, "America is
a Christian country", or, "Our country was founded
as a Christian nation". (For the record, our
government has never been Christian, although it
might be in the future). Every time these words are
uttered, American becomes weaker. America's
strength comes from our diversity and our
willingness to respect others who are not of the
same race or religion. There are forces working
against this willingness. Christian Fascism is one
of them.

The stronger a country's domestic economy is, the
higher the standard of living is. The stronger a
county's personal freedoms are, the stronger the
country's domestic economy. Contrast the
economies of countries that have very restrictive
personal freedoms such as North Korea to
countries such as ours. China's economy is
booming after giving its citizens more personal
freedoms.

As Christian Fascists gain more control, they will
systematically remove personal freedoms from
Americans. You see this starting to happen
already. The freedom of speech issues with FCC
censorship. The invasion of privacy issues with the
Patriot Act (which has never been used against a
terrorist, but has been used against Americans).
Medical research restrictions (such as stem-cell
research). The detention of US citizens without due
process of law. The blurring of church and state.
The list goes on and on. I'm sure both sides know
the drill here.

One issue that stands out to me is the Christian
Fascist movement to ban flag burning. Burning the
flag is a protected right that brave Americans have
fought and died for. You can't burn the flag in
places such as China, North Korea, Iran, Saudi
Arabia, etc. Why do we want to align ourselves with
such oppressive regimes? The fact that we have
the freedom to burn the flag makes its symbolism
that much greater. Having the freedom to burn the
flag is what makes this country better than any
other on Earth. Wanting to ban flag burning is
indicative of the freedom restrictions that Christian
Fascists will put in place if they gain more power.
You should be very fearful of people that think
taking away freedoms is patriotic. That is a road
you don't want to travel down. Don't even want to
see it on the map.

As more and more personal freedoms are taken
away, our economy and way of life will suffer. As
Christian Fascists strive to make a white, Christian
nation, they will destroy the foundations of this
country. Those foundations being based on
personal freedoms and not a religious state such
as Iran.

What frightens me more than the Christian
Fascists destruction of personal freedoms is their
propensity towards violence in the name of Jesus.
This is the most perverse form of Christianity that
I've ever seen. Jesus was a lover, not a hater.
However, you see many followers of Jesus filled
with hate for others. Hate for abortionists. Hate for
homosexuals. Hate for terrorists. Hate for 'liberals'.
They are filled with hate. Their entertainment is
filled with hate and violence. Christian Fascists are
not Christian. All of you true Christians know this. I
think it can be summed up with ……'Who would
Jesus bomb?'

Their violence and destruction of personal
freedoms are fueled by a black-and-white view of
the world. They see no gray. You are either on their
side, or you're not. You're either one of them, or
you're not. Things are either good, or they are evil.
This is a recipe for disaster. Take terrorism for
instance. The Christian Fascists just know they
hate Islamic terrorists and will hunt them down
and kill them. That's about as far as they think
about it. Me Christian, Terrorist Not: Kill. If you are
based in reality, you know that you must think it
through a few more levels. You need to ask
questions such as 'Why do they want to be
terrorists?', 'What forces in their lives make them
so desperate to kill others?', etc. To stop terrorism,
you need to stop people from wanting to become
terrorists. That is the only solution. Blindly kill them
just makes more of them.

When you hear everyone telling you, "This is the
most important election of your lifetime.", what they
are really saying is that this election is a vote on
Christian Fascism. There are seeds here for an
American civil war. The Christian Fascists are
drawing the line. Know which side you are on. In
their black-and-white view, you either are with them
or you're not.

The Christian Fascists are working towards a
totalitarian Christian nation where all dissenting
views are oppressed. These forces are already in
play. Most of them would shut down the 'liberal'
media, not hold elections, put religious symbols
everywhere and squelch all dissenting opinions if
they could. What is scary, is that they don't
understand how this is un-American. In their
twisted world, these actions have become
Patriotic.
… Over

They don't understand that the protection of
American freedoms means protecting things you
don't agree with. The true test of someone who
claims to believe in Freedom of Speech is whether
they tolerate speech which they disagree with, or
even find disgusting. Christian Fascists completely
miss the point here.

If you support an America where we, as American
citizens, strive to treat others as we want to be
treated, show respect for all races and religions,
do not cast your vote for Bush.

Love your neighbor as yourself. Even if they are a
faggot, nigger, kike, beaner, dyke, liberal or
whatever you clean shaven, hair spayed parted
haired, shirt tucked in, SUV driving, flag waving,
rapture loving, sexually repressed, pro-death, war
loving, republican Christian Fascists call them.

I pray to God that you, the reader, can understand
what direction Bush has taken this country. It is
one that has divisiveness, pain and blood in its
future (the sick thing is, the Christian Fascists want
this). I don't have too much hope. Most Americans
are hollowed out shells of souls that spend 90% of
their free time in front of the TV being told what to
think and what to spend 99% of their disposable
income on. No shit, the average savings rate in
this country is around 1% of disposable income.
The majority of people that will read this are
slaves, yet they will argue they have free will by
parroting words that they were given through the
TV. It's depressing to watch.

By the way, if you are a Republican that does not
have Identity with the Fascist movement, look
around you and re-evaluate why you are a
Republican. Your party is being taken over.

benjamin_paine@yahoo.com

About myself: I've received quite a few emails and
posts on the message board from people that
accuse me of being a 'COMMIE!' or left-wing. This
is far from the truth.

I am a high net-worth individual that is able to
qualify as an individual investor in the Carlyle
Group if I chose to do so. I stand to lose hundreds
of thousands of dollars per year in Bush tax cuts if
Kerry is elected. I seem to be one of the few that
can put aside personal greed for a better American
future. And no, it isn't from inheritance, I made it the
hard way.

I am a free market capitalist to the bone. I am an
economic conservative, but adhere to anti-trust and
anti-monopolistic policies such as those from
Teddy Roosevelt.



















I am for less government, less government
spending, less government legislation, less
government interference in personal affairs. I
support and protect the 1st, 2nd and 4th
amendments. I believe in strict separation of
church and state. I am not anti-religion. I
understand, like our founding fathers did, that
theocracy has no place in a civil government
structure. Sounds like I am a Republican. I am. A
Republican of a past era. The Republicans of
today hold very few of my values.

I changed my party affiliation to Democratic so that
I could vote in my state's Democratic primary this
year. I have no intention of ever calling myself a
Republican until the party rids itself of the growing
Christian Fascist movement within it.

And for those that email me and tell me how glad
they will be when they 'disappear off the face of the
Earth' when Jesus comes
for them and how I'll be sorry: I've got a deal for you.
I'll give you 15% of whatever your current assets
are worth. In cash, today. The catch is that we both
enter into a contract that states I take possession
of your assets at the time of your disappearance
and/or death. Deal?

Laurence W. Britt, a political scientist, details 14
similarities in Fascist movements in the article
"Fascism Anyone?".

These similarities can be found in Nazi Germany,
Fascist Italy, Franco’s Spain, Salazar’s Portugal,
Papadopoulos’s Greece, Pinochet’s Chile, and
Suharto’s Indonesia. These are becoming all too
well known in America as well.

* Powerful and continuing expressions of
nationalism
* Disdain for the importance of human rights
* Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a
unifying cause
* The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
* Rampant sexism
* A controlled mass media
* Obsession with national security
* Religion and ruling elite tied together
* Power of corporations protected
* Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
* Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and
the arts
* Obsession with crime and punishment
* Rampant cronyism and corruption
* Fraudulent elections


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